18 comments
  • danpalmer2y

    Sounds neat, but no demo, no video, no evidence at all of it achieving the stated goals. Also they're doing a survey to see how much people would pay per month for what sounds like a single download app (not a service).

    Tech-wise, would be interested to hear what this is using. I assume it's using the macOS Hypervisor framework?

    • jsjohnst2y

      > Tech-wise, would be interested to hear what this is using.

      Especially due to the claim on “30Gbps networking” considering there isn’t a Apple Silicon Mac with over a single 10GbE port.

      • bongobingo12y

        They may mean host->container which can have performance limits, at least when running via slirp4netns in user mode due to all the frame copying (who knows if they meet both those requirements on macOS). Newer things like pasta avoid some overheads.

        • danpalmer2y

          Macs also don't typically have disks that fast, so unless it's transferring out of memory, which won't saturate 30Gbps for long, that also seems to not be that useful.

          Latency feels like it would be a better trade-off here, I wonder what they're doing to reduce host to container latency.

          • jsjohnst2y

            > I wonder what they're doing to reduce host to container latency

            Considering that any solution they came up with is almost assured to be using Apple’s virtualization frameworks, I’d venture the answer is near zero (at least for work they specifically did).

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  • Jenzaah2y

    Isn't this something this guy is trying to do: https://archive.fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/containers_da...

    This achieves linux containers on macOS.

    • happymellon2y

      This looks extremely interesting, though it has also stalled.

  • jsjohnst2y

    OrbStack’s website 404s. Read into that what you will.

    Further, the link shared here seems to be a referral url, but I might be wrong.

    • danpalmer2y

      > Further, the link shared here seems to be a referral url, but I might be wrong.

      I think it's just the ID for the survey in the tool they've used to build the interest sign-up form.

      • jsjohnst2y

        It’s the /r/… that made me think referral link, but browsing through tally’s feature set, it doesn’t seem like that’s a feature they offer.

        • cassianoleal2y

          If you open https://tally.so/ it takes you to a form builder, so the OP URL is probably just a direct link to a form they spun up to collect data.

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  • erdaniels2y

    I feel like the latest Docker Desktop on Ventura works quite well in both amd64 and arm64 containers. This might be with the experimental VM settings on as well as the Rosetta x64 in containers support. As much as I don't love Docker Desktop with the forced login and what not, I can't tell what this is offering over it? Maybe VMs?

    For VMs, I'm using UTM.app and it's fantastic.

  • sixbrx2y

    Link in first sentence is 404.

    Looks interesting. The biggest problem I have with Docker Desktop on MacOS though is the constant cpu draw of 3-5% (or more, I can't tell if "kernel_task" seeming more busy when Docker is running is real). Wondering if we get any improvement there?

    • salzig2y

      did you had a look into Colima? https://github.com/abiosoft/colima

      • cassianoleal2y

        I'll vouch for colima. Been using it since I got my M1 Air at launch and it's been stellar.

        That said, it still uses ~2.5-3% CPU when idle. This is probably background processes inside the VM and it's not a lot, but it's there. I have had instances where I had completely forgotten I had the VM up and didn't notice any impact on battery life though, so I don't really think it's a big deal. It's also dead easy to just stop it when not in use.

        To the GP, increased kernel_task usage (if any) might not be having any impact on battery at all. The main utility for this process, from my experience, is to idle the CPU when it gets hot. This is how the thermal throttle works on macOS.

  • e-Minguez2y

    vaporware until they show something... the url is sketchy to say at least, the main domain doesn't work...